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Re: Goose Chase

Post  savage308 on Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:13 pm

i am running yellow springs in the front and i put gold on the back cause i felt the red was slightly too soft 30 wt oil all arount rear springs layed all the way down in the top may increase shock weight sweep tires i was also experiencing the roll at end of front stretch at rch if you didnt drive in very gently haha

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Re: Goose Chase

Post  Enforcerman on Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:01 pm

Try dialing your throttle setting on your transmitter back to around 70% or so; Brett found that it made a difference, as the Venom 21T motor has more than enough power for the Goose, maybe too much. Dialing back the throttle makes the car more controllable and better overall around the track. I might look into lowering the gear ratio as well. And yes you need to drive in "gentle" the sweeper at the end of the front straight. That is another reason to try dialing back the throttle setting.

I plan on doing some testing at RCH on Friday after work, and I will post here what the results are.

Are you going to the "test and tune" session at the Kmart parking lot this sunday at 2:00? Rob will have the track set up I think. Might want to check with him about that. I plan on being there.
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  axialcrawler on Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:34 pm

rob do you happen to have any more of these cars in stock might have to get one
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  Robs Extreme rc on Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:06 pm

Yes I have one in stock now
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  axialcrawler on Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:12 pm

ok how much are they going for
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Post  Robs Extreme rc on Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:22 pm

Like $161 plus tax

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Re: Goose Chase

Post  Enforcerman on Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:34 pm

Well today I went to RCH and did some further testing of my Goose. My setup was to use the yellow springs up front and the red springs in the rear. I also installed the blue(thinnest) swaybar in the front. Both optional weight sets were installed up front as well. Battery was in full rear position. Kit tires and wheels.
The throttle setting on the transmitter was set to 70% and the steering dual rate was at 100% with -50% steering exponential.

With this setup the car ran much better and there was no traction rolling at all, and I could turn into the corners including the sweeper at the end of the front straight better. I tried dialing the throttle down to 60% with not much noticeable difference. At one point I had it all the way down to 20%; still plenty of speed.

One thing of concern, was that the first 4-5 minutes was good but as I ran longer the handling seemed to go away a bit. The rear traction seemed to go away which made the car squirrly. Maybe that traction compound(SXT 3.0) I was using didn't hold up well enough; may need to try a different compound for rubber tires.

The next thing I am going to do is adjust the motor timing; mine is set to the highest setting. I am going to turn it all the way down. May even try lowering the gear ratio; smaller pinion. The point is that the Venom 21T motor with the 2 cell lipo is more than enough power for the Goose. Tamiya makes a rear wheel drive mini called the M-06 which is raced and they use the Johnson Mabuchi closed endbell motor on it and that seems to be a better power match for rear wheel drive cars. I'm not suggesting we change motors; just tune the Venom down in order to make the car more driveable.

From here I am going to the "test and tune" at the KMart parking lot on Sunday to try the Goose on pavement.
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  brettweir78 on Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:47 pm

I spent some time driving the goose in the parking lot of the union hall. I made a few adjustments to the steering and throttle as well. I had the throttle set to 70% and steering set to 110%. The rear still can spin out if it gets into sandy conditions. For the most part the car does pretty good on asphalt.
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  brettweir78 on Mon May 02, 2011 12:29 am

Track layouts are posted in the extreme asphalt thread.

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Re: Goose Chase

Post  Enforcerman on Mon May 02, 2011 7:10 pm

To Brett and all the Goose Chase drivers: I have been in contact with ABC Hobby about some new aluminum option parts for the Goose which will be released this week.

#25175 Goose Aluminum Front Sus. Holder $15.00/pair
#25176 Goose Aluminum Front Bulkhead $24.00
#25177 Goose Aluminum Center Bulkhead $12.00
#25178 Goose Aluminum Rear Upper Bulkhead $24.00
#25179 Goose Aluminum Lower Bulkhead $45.00

I plan on ordering the #25175 ALUM Front Sus. Holder from Rob tomorrow

Rob, if you read this I want the #25175 and 2 sets of the #24196 BRE black wheels and 2 sets of the #24157 ALUM Hub 7mm.

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Re: Goose Chase

Post  DBMach1 on Mon May 02, 2011 9:45 pm

Dave, with the 7mm hubs, will you need the longer dogbone?
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  brettweir78 on Mon May 02, 2011 11:05 pm

Rob, I will take the 24170 shim set we talked about sun. Also would like the 25175 upper suspension holder. I will stop in later this week.

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Re: Goose Chase

Post  Enforcerman on Mon May 02, 2011 11:36 pm

Dom,

Brett and I talked about those dogbones yesterday, and we can't see why you would need them to widen the track width of the car. The 7mm hubs should be all you need.

I will know for sure when I get the hubs.

Brett, according to Yusuke at ABC Hobby, you can remove that spacer on the upper rear pivot to gain more camber, and you don't need to put a thinner one in. Just take it out.
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  brettweir78 on Mon May 02, 2011 11:39 pm

I will take the spacer out for testing but once I figure out what works I will lock it down with the correct shim spacer.
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  axialcrawler on Tue May 03, 2011 10:09 am

any one tried running how they come out of the box i thought mine whent realy good i just checked the camber raised the ride height a lttle to keep motor from slapping the ground and put 1 ounce of weight on the nose and the car had realy good grip on and off corner as long as you didnt mash the throttle off corner vary happy whith the car handles awsome
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  axialcrawler on Tue May 03, 2011 10:12 am

rob are you going to keep a stock of replacment bodys mine has two little cracks on front bumper
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  Robs Extreme rc on Tue May 03, 2011 10:58 pm

I order peices for these all the time. Let me know what body you want and i will order it
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  axialcrawler on Wed May 04, 2011 10:02 am

ok thanks
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  brettweir78 on Wed May 04, 2011 11:38 am

Rob, did my parts come in?
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  axialcrawler on Wed May 04, 2011 5:03 pm

ANY GOING TO BE AT RCH ANY TIME THIS WEEKEND WITH THERE GOOSE WOULD LIKE TO COMPARE MY CAR TO OTHERS AND GET IDEAS FOR BETTER SETUP AND JUST TO HAVE SOME FUN EITHER SAT OR SUN
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  axialcrawler on Wed May 04, 2011 5:04 pm

ANYONE RUNNING THE MINI SWEEPS IF SO HOW ARE THEY HOLDING UP

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Re: Goose Chase

Post  Enforcerman on Wed May 04, 2011 6:47 pm

I ran the Mini Sweeps on my Goose this past Sunday at the KMart lot and they were ok I guess. The lot was so dusty it was hard to get much grip, period. Rob is going to blow it off with a leaf blower next time. The tires seemed to hold up well though.

I am going to try the Tamiya S Grip mini radials next.

Not sure if I can make it to RCH this weekend. Maybe.
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Re: Goose Chase

Post  Robs Extreme rc on Wed May 04, 2011 8:50 pm

being that Sweep Racing is a title sponsor of the Extreme Asphalt Series. I think that they should be the only other tire to be ran if you change from the stock tires.

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Re: Goose Chase

Post  savage308 on Wed May 04, 2011 9:40 pm

I believe thats what the rules state also stock or sweep tires only

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Re: Goose Chase

Post  DBMach1 on Wed May 04, 2011 10:29 pm

I just checked the rules and it is only the stock tires or the Sweeps. We definately will get a better idea when the track is cleaned.

Hey, did anybody take a look at the proposed track plans? The best compromise might be the third one as we can run nitro and electric on the track.

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